I found that in sharing your story with somebody else, someone who doesn't necessarily have to know you very well,

or sometimes they... or they can't, it doesn't, it doesn't really matter.

But if you reflect back with someone else the story of your life, and it can go on for hours

and hours and hours, they can start to tell you the themes that emerge that you would never sort of see yourself.

One of the things that's challenging when you're extremely talented at something, is that it's really easy for you.

And so you generally don't value it as much as that thing that's really hard.

And so somebody else can see that in you frequently much better than you can.